[All servers] Gold Prices

Sinisstar

Dear Kodman18 (Styyled),

Here is the Poll you requested!

Sinisstar

Sorry, I had to make the content shorter, so it would fit.
Also, I had no control over which order it was posted, even though I posted them in the same order as you had them! =/ I don't get that!

tudorciubotaru

these prices are pure scam . let the players from all servers know about this and stop buying . its the only way prices can get fair for us 2

ryanaeckles

Guys, it's how they make money and how we get a free game. If the price for gold dropped, the prices in game would eventually rise. Classic inflation.  Personally, I think that if you are upset and think that "these prices are pure scam," then don't buy gold and just play your game.

It's not real. Don't worry so much.

mangelsr69

The other games I have played give you a  lot more for your money. Some prices in the game are ridiculous. I realize that's how they make their money though. I think if you got more gold for your buck and the gold prices stayed the same in game that more people would buy gold.

gaber

I'm done with buying gold for this game, the greed and orientation of most features and contests toward those who can spend real money has completely turned me off. I am barely interested enough in the game to continue on with it.

Minnie000

I understand this is how they make their money.  However don't advertise this as "free" because it's not.  If you want to make anything out of your business you pretty much have to buy gold.
I'd actually prefer if they made all these "free" games pay to play and then either made gold free or extremely cheap.  That way it wouldn't come off as a scam like it does now.

kodman18

I think that many people are extremely unhappy with the current prices of gold on the US servers, both new and existing. With US servers s1-s4 receiving 1USD = 20g, US Servers 5-23+ receiving 1USD = 10g, and ALL CHINESE servers receiving 1USD = ~63g+?. The balance of gold prices across these servers are extremely unlevel, but the servers are all exactly the same.

Gamebtoen, you have extended the players the opportunity to vote on game policy, mechanics, and future content. I believe it is now time for you to honor this, and allow the players who are paying these prices to show you what their thoughts reflect on this subject. I also believe that if the players show that the gold prices need to be adjusted, that you should do so accordingly in the best interest of BTO and its players.

So now its time for us to take it to a poll. I strongly suggest you cast your vote after you have voiced your feelings and reasons why, so that Gamebtoen and others may be able to understand and be persuaded. I will go first:

In summary, we are playing the same game that the Chinese are, and our money is just as good. If 300$ over there gets over 30000g (Yes, 30000g), then giving us 3000g and half the promotional package for the same price is basically a scam. We have even gone so far to show our devotion to the game as to PAY these prices, yet we are still treated so unfairly by receiving only 10% for our money.

You are also taking so much away from our gaming experience. The difference between getting 10000g and 1000g is absolutely HUGE, and when all the prices for trainings and all activities are the exact same price on the chinese server, they get to play the game 10 TIMES as much for the same price! How can you believe that we will not grow tired of spending millions to get pennies?

The rate of gold needs to be organized between all servers, and the progression of pricing needs to be established. When a server is launched, for the first month: 1 USD = 10g. After 1 month, the of gold cuts in half, 1 USD = 20g. After 3 months, the price of gold doubles, to 1 USD = 40g. After 6 months, the price of gold decreases a final time, to 1 USD = 60g. This way players can know what to expect when competing in new servers, and can also be encouraged to start on older servers where the playerbases are dying.

These are just some of the reasons that gold prices should be normalized and regulated, but I am sure there are hundreds more. Lets let the poll and this thread be a way to reflect this unfortunate situation and bring some change  

http://btobbs.dovogame.com/viewthread.php?tid=7320


Styyled - S10


That was the original post, for any of those who might have missed it.

flyingchong9

Game golds, who dont like?

robpro

The servers 1-4 are older, and therefore have less active players so the 20 gold per $ is probably an effort to attract new players to play in that server however I dont think it is working, as I play in S4 and hardly see any new members.
But like already said, whatever the price of gold, the gold itself will likely have the same value in the game. Eg. If gold cost 1$ for 40, then the price of a metal detector will be 40 :/

And also; It is a free game, as you can still play the games features for free. Every game like this has the basics for free to entice you to play and get addicted ;)! But to do the fun stuff and get extras you need to spend ze gold!

Brad Kidd

The servers 1-4 are older, and therefore have less active players sothe 20 gold per $ is probably an effort to attract new players to playin that server however I dont think it is working, as I play in S4 andhardly see any new members.
But like already said, whatever the price of gold, the gold itself willlikely have the same value in the game. Eg. If gold cost 1$ for 40,then the price of a metal detector will be 40 :/
robpro Posted at 8/2/2010 01:59

1.) That's not true. The price of gold on servers 1-4 was always $1 = 20 gold. That was their original price, which was already more than 3 times the price of gold in the Chinese servers. Then they made the decision to give us even less, but they probably thought it would look worse to change the value on the 4 servers that were released before they made this change, so they only made it $1 = 10 gold on new servers after that.

It wasn't an attempt to bring attention to the old servers, it was just a way to get more money without really pissing off the members of the old servers and giving an unfair advantage to people that bought gold early at a lower price. Also, if they did it to bring attention to the first 4 servers, they would advertise it more. When you're signing up it would say "Twice the gold for the same price!" or something next to the first 4 servers.

2.) According to things I've seen other people say, everything costs the same amount of gold on the Chinese servers and the English servers. Treasure detectors still cost 10 gold, they just get to buy 6 of them for the same price we would pay to buy 2 or 1 of them depending on the server.

truman

i too think they are too high to buy gold if they are going to be that high it needs to be easier to get gold in-game like MIB give out more gold.

Sinisstar

I agree, the most I ever got from Gold MiB was 10. Most times I get two. TWO!!! *sigh*

Sinisstar

I think that all servers at least should have the same amount! I dont see the fairness in servers 1-4 getting 20 for a buck and the rest only getting 10 for a buck! How is something like that fair???
If nothing else, I would like to see that rectified!!! and SOON!

robpro

If you think it isn't fair, then join server 1-4! Nothing is stopping you!

And be happy with 10 gold for a gold MIB, that as you say is a free $. I get around 5gold max and sometimes only get a brick!

Sinisstar

If you think it isn't fair, then join server 1-4! Nothing is stopping you!

And be happy with 10 gold for a gold MIB, that as you say is a free $. I get around 5gold max and sometimes only get a brick ...
robpro Posted at 8/2/2010 15:13

Excuse me...

1. I am on servers 1 and 3 (as well as 10 and 11) as you can plainly see from my banner!

2. Obviously, I was saying how it isnt fair to me AND OTHER PLAYERS as well, oh, and by the way, anyone can join whatever server they want to join, AND the prices should be and NEED TO BE the SAME across the ALL the servers in order to be fair to everyone!

3. I have the right to want to see more gold from the MIB if I so desire!

4. Please refrain from making rude comments like this when someone posts a suggestion! It is really not necessary!

robpro

lol, well stop whining and be happy! Life is unfair!

Sinisstar

I asked you to stop being rude!

Butterfly

Break it up or i'm locking this thread.

robpro

Well sorry, did you know millions of people live with under 1$ a day, so be happy next time you get 10 free gold from MIB!

berlowa

The issue is more that the prices in game should match the price of gold. Things are half as expensive on s1-s4 and are 6.7x less expensive on Chinese servers. They should change the prices so that further training doesn't cost almost $150 USD going from red to orange or even $75 USD when it is much less expensive to do the same thing on a Chinese server. The point of this poll and thread is to express the opinion of many players that the prices should be equal, and if not, then that should be reflected by in game prices. Its not fair that we get less for our money because of geography. These are digital goods, they should cost the same everywhere.

Sinisstar

Well sorry, did you know millions of people live with under 1$ a day, so be happy next time you get 10 free gold from MIB!
robpro Posted at 8/3/2010 01:55

Last warning....

Prolit

The prices for gold being lower in China I can understand, but I don't see why there is a difference in price between the Western servers, even more so because we compete in rankings and soon arena's.

berlowa

I can't understand it being lower in China. Its not fair to player outside of China, because the in game prices remain the same, so for every one treasure hunt for example, a Chinese player gets 6! So a Chinese player get 6 times more things for their real money, be it treasure hunting, senior training, or in the shop. The idea behind this thread and the many other attempts at it is to make players on these servers aware of the drastic inequality, and hope that BTO will possibly make things more fair for us players as a result, and either reduce the cost of gold and compensate those who have spent real money, or to reduce the price of in game activities to reflect the drastic increase in gold prices.

Brad Kidd

Further training Red to Orange: (1620 gold)

Servers 5+: $162
Servers 1-4: $81
Chinese: $24.18

Further Training White to Orange: (2435 gold)

Servers 5+: $243.50
Servers 1-4: $121.75
Chinese: $36.34

So that means on Servers 5+ of the English servers, someone can train 1 Employee from Red to Orange at the same price a person on the Chinese servers can train 4.46 employees from WHITE to Orange.

Training from No Talent to Master: (8800 gold)

Servers 5+: $880
Servers 1-4: $440
Chinese: $131.34

A Chinese player spends $167.68 and turns a No Talent White employee into a Master Orange employee. It costs $1123.5 to do that on English servers 5+. How, in any way, is that fair?

speedyyouri

Well, if they want to make it a business game, let's do business then and get game gold on some internal stock gold exchange which matches China vs the rest of the world, then you can see what's fair.

robpro

I guess they purposely make the prices very high in order to make the discounts they have every once in a while seem amazing which will then lead to more people buying gold to train.

robpro

Last warning....
Sinisstar Posted at 8/3/2010 14:20

Also why is that post a warning? I wasn't being rude!

enksemail

The problem with the argument that differing prices "aren't fair" is that it's a free market.  The fairness of prices that are not equal is irrelevant:  No one is forcing you to play the game, or to buy gold in the game.   There is no inalienable human right for everyone in the world to be charged the same price for the same product, and the fact that prices differ between servers (or across continents) doesn't necessarily mean someone is trying to scam you.  

If you are concerned about being treated fairly, or normalizing prices across servers, then walk away.  Or, don't buy gold.  If all of the players on servers 5+ stopped buying gold, and said they would not buy any more until prices changed, the prices would change.  A poll won't change anything:  players need to vote with their wallets if they want a change made.

Sbob

Insted of giving more gold for the money have the scale in place that want and then the prices scale to it. So if s1-4 is a 2x then have the items cost half as much than on a 1x server. if it is 6x as much then hve the items cost 1/6th the same. The key being is where you want to run the modification in the code. Do you want to have consistent prices then have consistent values for the cash. But for ease have a server modifier if want but have it work across the board so that same gets you the same. Want to encourage more players on older servers do not do it with gold inflation but maybe have new player events much like the first week on the new servers. Where new players have a chance to get some awards to boost them up on the more mature servers.