richthegreat198

oh so deisel sucks compaired to gas realy unless you already have like 1500-2000 goods per day output

Dios

Just as gas sucks if used in lvl 1 stores.

Serenade

58# apor
Thank you. I will put your idea into my post when I have some free time to revise my guide.
@everyone: This is it people...the final multiplier (for now) is posted.... My sales exp can still go up so I will see if we already got the 2 new sales exp update.

richthegreat198

gas lasts 8hr, diesel only 1.... no contest

apor

63# Serenade
I ry for teh missinformation: The bonuses for the productive and supply factories are multiplicative.
I am still confused about Serenade's high raw production:
He gets 65407 cloth per day with a base multiplier of 101.41.
I get 39676 with a base multiplier of 51.93 and I am balanced.
So that would be 77480 for me with 52k xp.
But based on his number I should get 130817 which is 68.83% more.

@Serenade: Can you tell me how does K- and M-Devices work and if you use them? Thx.

Serenade

I have 1000 wisdom and a good % from co-op partners, plus Im in Sales industry. Im working on the formulas right now, and hope to have them soon. Im expecting that some bonuses are multiplied further by some other bonuses. I dont have any devices, but I would say they also add to the base rate.

Skywalker

I still prefer the Balanced or raw materials factory. At 52k+ sales exp, I still don't have enough raw materials to produce goods of quality B. Are there any raw material increases after 52k?

samgeer

I've scanned the forums guys + gals and have drawn a blank.

Using treasure hunt and what not i've won a few differerent 'Factory Acc Device cards, both K+M'

Using them gives me different things.  
I have a k100 manual.
I have a M200 Acc Device Scroll
I have a Super M300 Acc Device scroll.

It seems to me that i need quite a bit more kit to even make these things useable.. Am i doing something wrong? It seems EXTREMELY difficult/expensive to obtain the whole kit...

I seek your knowledge guys;
How can i go about using these things?
Are they high in value?

Thanks in advance!

Rushton

See my scrolls, materials and props guide for how K and M devices work.

In short they add similar to the wisdom boost, not as an increased base, so it's not huge. 100 adds 10%, 200 adds 20% etc.

They can however be removed again once used and traded.

samgeer

Rushton

Your a star thanks very much. Your guide is very well written. And it helps make it clear.
Yes it is hard to obtain the other items needed ;)

Thanks a mill

skilerous

Oi, I have a small question about all this Factory and Trade stuff.

If I understood well, we produce raw materials with our Factories and when we sell them to the Trade post, they are bought by players when they Restock their own shops? (depending if they are entertainment or catering industries, either metal or cereals are sold?)

What means this "sell them to the System"? Does the server purchase your materials at random when no player is purchasing them? Sometimes I don't know if I sold my products to a player or to the system, so I want to know when System buys and when players buys them.

And yes, I'm still a lil bit confused about how the Factory and Trade Post works and as for where our raw materials and other stuff are gone after an anonymous purchase.

I'll be grateful if someone can enlight me unto this. Thanks

Copel

Raw Materials are always sold to other players.  There is no option to sell to the system.  Selling to the system is only an option when you are selling goods.  It's a way to quickly sell factory goods (and thus gain Sales Exp) but at a price well below the suggested market price.  Goods sold to the system disappear forever, never to be seen again.

skilerous

72# Copel

Cool, thanks for sharing your knowledge I recently sold some broken goods to the System and some H ones.
One newb question I still have: what the players do with the goods they bought? Are they used for something special? I can't find for what are they used for... And what if I want to use my own goods for something instead of buying them from someone else?

Copel

Factory goods can be used to stock your stores, giving bonuses to that store's revenue.  However, using factory goods in your stores will not increase Sales Exp.  That's why it's better to sell any goods that you make and then buy any goods that you want to use in stores.  If you are shrewd about pricing, you may be able to buy and sell at/near the same price so it's like getting back the same goods you made, but you get the Sales Exp.

skilerous

74# Copel

Ah, now I understand better the strategy behind it. Thanks a lot

Miradonis

Hi,
First time in this game.
Following the Guide, I have a factory now with 4 stores (Entertainment) .
In the Factory,
Raw Material Output:   Metal: 200/day, Cloth: 200/day, Cereal: 200/day, Wood: 200/day
And each of these are 300/300 units.
What to do with these ? How shall it help my shops ?

Regards.

Serenade

Hi,
First time in this game.
Following the Guide, I have a factory now with 4 stores (Entertainment) .
In the Factory,
Raw Material Output:   Metal: 200/day, Cloth: 200/day, Cereal: 200/day, Wood: 20 ...
Miradonis Posted at 9/5/2010 16:53

You can enter Production Dept and start producing goods. Goods (Entertainment) will boost your stores' revenues if you transport them to your stores. If you sell them to either other players or the system, you will get sales exp. You can read about sales exp in my post. What I wrote is all the info about the factory so players can plan on expanding/using their factory without going into materials shortage (though Im having the shortage right now )

Brad Kidd

I have 90,000 Sales Experience in Sales and my cloth output did not increase. That 89814 must be wrong.

richthegreat198

its not in our version yet bradd only chinese version

Serenade

I have 90,000 Sales Experience in Sales and my cloth output did not increase. That 89814 must be wrong.
Brad Kidd Posted at 9/8/2010 06:50

The other sales exp points were originally released with the game, so they might (not ) be slightly off from the true values because the Chinese players discovered those by themselves...but the last two were taken directly from the update posted on the bto chinese homepage, so Im 99.99% () sure they are correct. They were released at the same time with the warehouse 12 and 13. We already had the warehouse update, so expect to have the sales exp update soon

Brad Kidd

Hopefully it'll be implemented soon, I could really use that cloth boost.

Skywalker

Why don't you guys put in a support ticket or suggestion. They included new warehouse caps but w/o more raw materials it's useless.

Brad Kidd

It looks like they added the higher sales experience levels, my cloth output jumped by about 20k.

Serenade

Yup they did. I updated the 89814 boost, anyone with 128k sales exp feel free to give me the info and I will update it because it will take me a while

richthegreat198

same currently upgraded device 2x, will do a 3rd tomorrow

Serenade

now I think 500k warehouse is not enough

Brad Kidd

128306 seems to be approximately x142

I have a cloth output of 129,752 up from 111,215

Serenade

cool, I have updated the info. Thank you.

Brad Kidd

Anyone know if there's a level beyond 128,306?

hasah

thanks for the help